Is social media too much to learn?

28 October, 2009 | Written by edward boches 19 Comments

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During  a recent 4As webinar on social media, I asked the nearly 300 participants a simple question. What is your typical clients’ view of social media? There were three choices and subjects couldn’t weight them, they had to pick one.

The greatest word of mouth opportunity ever.

A new way to get closer to customers and prospects.

Oh Sh%&, one more thing to learn.

Believe it or not 66 percent of the audience chose  “Oh sh%& one more thing to learn.”

Only 31 percent reported that their clients considered social a way to get closer to their communities. And an astonishingly low three percent described their clients as marketers who recognize the word-of-mouth potential inherent in platforms like Twitter and Facebook.

True, social media is not the easiest thing for marketers to figure out. They need a clear understanding of how their customers interact with each other and their content. Are they spectators, critics, or even creators? Until they know it’s pretty hard to decide how the brand should engage.

They’ve got to learn at least something about the platforms, what they can do with the APIs, and how to create content in places that are as much about participation as about sitting back and watching.

And they need more than a basic knowledge of both off–the-shelf and custom metrics to measure everything from reach to sentiment to actual results.

Picture 3Finally, there’s the commitment. Social media is not a fling, it’s a long term relationship.

But there are only two ways to interpret a reaction like “Oh SH&%, one more thing to learn.” For agencies — advertising, PR, inbound marketing — it’s a reminder to do an even better job of teaching clients what they need to know. And it’s an invitation to make sure you know enough yourself to do it for them. After all, once all marketers realize that the benefits of the other two options far outweigh the burden of learning, they’ll expect you to have it figured out.

What are your thoughts? Does this quick poll represent your clients or your brand?

Artwork/painting: James W. Johnson

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Keith Perske moderator
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I’m not surprised. This is a natural reaction to the cumulative tidal wave of info about Social Media/Networking. A year ago this wasn’t even on the radar. Now it’s the cover story of mainstream mags. People know that they don’t know a lot about it and don’t even know the boundaries of all there is to know. They naturally express this as; ‘It’s too hard”. But it will sink in over time, as all new technologies do. In fact SM is taking the same vector into our lives and work as did the cell phone, black berry and laptop. It’s coming from outside the enterprise in rather than from the company’s central IT group. For that reason alone I believe it has serious legs. SM will fundimentally change the WHERE of work and likely the HOW. But it’s new and undisciplined like a child so it needs to guided and civilized to be useful in business. But it WILL be a business tool as workers are distributed physically. Trust me.

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Laurence Smink moderator
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In my neck of the woods (Western Canada) Twitter doesn't have very high adoption rates. In my hometown of a million folks, only 6000 some users were active on Twitter last month. You could put flyers on the windshields of cars at the local mall and get better reach. That would cost about the same and take the same amount of time, without the learning curve. So I'm telling my local clients to keep their eye on Twitter, use it for kicks, react when their name comes up, but not to expect too much. Obviously there are other social media with much bigger reach and we are working with our clients to integrate those into their marketing process. We're helping our clients understand those channels, how to use them and how to streamline the process. My point is that not only is this stuff new, there's a whole lot of hype surrounding it that isn't always justified. I see your results as perfectly understandable Edward. .-= Laurence Smink´s last blog ..Redemption for evil, greedy banks? =-.

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edward boches moderator
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Laurence, Interesting point. Guess it does depend on the category and audience/community. But, aren't the thought leaders on Twitter? And doesn't everyone read blogs? At least one or two? And aren't all bloggers on Twitter? And don't brands need to reach influencers as well as direct consumers? And doesn't every legitimate research finding show that the growth is continuing and that more importantly word of mouth from a peer or friend or family is 200 times more effective than advertising? Given that, it seems that a marketer should be giving it a go. Even in the woods of Western Canada. Finally, if people look at reach as their primary metric, they may be missing the point. Conversation, relationships, engagement with 10 of the right people might be more valuable than reaching 1000. Let me know how things progress and what other experiences you have. I love Western Canada. One of most beautiful places I've ever been.

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Sarah Montague moderator
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Hi Edward, Wish I could have attended your talk. I'm not surprised by your findings. I've talked to two prospects recently that had formed social media task force groups to try to figure out what they need to do. For some marketers it does seem daunting. I think we'll see greater adoption at larger CPG,fashion,Health Beauty,Food brands and with the small businesses that get the role social media plays in inbound marketing. I think there will be a whole group of businesses in that middle range that will take much longer to incorporate it if at all.

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edward boches moderator
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No doubt you are right. But if, in fact, clients are missing the WOM opp or the chance to connect opp and instead thinking, "oh, sh&%, more to learn," then we have some teaching to do. Keep at it.

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Mariano moderator
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I'm not completely surprised by the results of your survey. I know a LOT of businesses here that haven't taken the plunge into social media...and even those that do only put their foot in the water, realize it's a little cold, and then go back to whatever they were doing before. They just don't get that the water feels warmer if they stay for a bit and engage in an activity. I've tried to get businesses more interested on this very topic, and hope we can all convey the importance of at least considering social media as a tool. It doesn't fall entirely on deaf ears...there are some people out there who will definitely lead the pack. Thanks for the insight as usual Edward! .-= Mariano´s last blog ..The Web and You Presents: Small Business, Big Voices =-.

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Ben Kunz moderator
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For marketers not living in the ad-world cool-hunting bubble, this is all very new. The average CMO changes jobs every 24 months, and social media is barely 2 years old ... so we're only 1 job cycle in. The CMO in her latest role has barely had time to find the bathroom and push one budget through, so no wonder she ... with the broader world she has to manage of sales forces and product development and pricing strategy, has given little attention to the latest wrinkle buried inside the marcom unit. There are exceptions. B2B clients seem quickest to embrace social media. Our agency now works with several, including Cessna Aircraft and 3Com up in your neck of the woods. These guys are all over social media ... because in B2B dynamics of big-ticket items with long sales cycles, personal relationships are everything. B2B companies were first aboard the CRM bandwagon, too, so they get that any new communication platform that builds relationships is a good thing. Are they hipper or smarter? Or does social media lend itself best to big bets, where a smaller number of personal relationships can lead to huge gains? If so, maybe that's why ad agencies are all over this, too. We don't bring in 10,000 clients a year -- we bring in a handful, and if we're lucky, they're big ticket items. So we love social media because at heart we're B2B sales teams, courting the small few that lead to big results. Food for thought. Maybe social media works best when it's only a few social successes we need to attain.

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edward boches moderator
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Totally agree that it's a great B2B tool, but surprisingly a lot B2B clients are as slow to embrace as consumer brands. For me some of the best cases are Zappos, Wholefoods, Best Buy, (big brands that use it to connect with a mass audience); then Gary V., Kogi, et al. (small brands that use it instead of calling on agencies to build businesses from the ground up using technologies that enable reach, distribution and broadcasting once limited only to those with big budgets.) The next trend, or new existing trend, will be more and more small to medium size firms using inbound marketing techniques and creating their own content. They may not create content as dramatic or captivating as a great creative shop, but if you listen to consumer research, that's not what consumers want. (It may increase acceptance of intrusive advertising, but if a consumer knows what he or she wants, then just the facts, m'am.) Then, of course, it's not an either or. A smart brand needs both. You have to have your head in the sand not to know that this is where the consumer is going. And even if a CMO is new to the job, would you ever hire one who isn't as much about the new stuff as the old? I know I wouldn't.

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Dipjol moderator
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God, didn't the Zappos guy say it right: a social media plan for an ad campaign is like a facial muscle plan for a smile campaign. (Or something, I paraphrase.)

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Dipjol moderator
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I say without irony that I did _not_ expect that one. I always thought that the whole deal with social media was that finally here's a platform where idea truly CAN be king. It's disheartening to see that people think like this. I'm seeing a lot of this in graduate school too. Some of my professors are amazing in their current knowledge. (And my favorite one gave you props the other day cause you're his pal!) Others treat emerging media like they're alien languages. My favorite example is when we had to discuss the scansion of our twitter posts because really, that's the point of twitter, right? That's what Iranians are trying to do when they send text messages about their government, it's to achieve iambic hexameter in 140 characters. Dramatic example I know, exchange that for shoe sales on Newbury Street or something. The icing was how that entire course's twitter assignment is to sign up for a twitter account and make ONE post. ONE. 2% of our total grade! (Oh man I'm not using my real name for this.) Could be worse though. Before I decided to go to school for advertising I was working at a fairly high level for a third world branch of one of the really big worldwide agencies. Setting up a website for the agency was the lowest priority, and my art director (beautiful girl too talented to work with me) and I had to fight to do it. We had one of the biggest cellphone brands and everything for that would be relegated to the most junior guys. The website was a splash-page with jpegs of the print ads. I bought a domain to set up an agency blog and after I left, nobody updated it. Whenever I tried to suggest an online extension, the clients pooh-poohed because of too much transparency and the agency pooh-poohed because it was too much trouble. This in spite of the fact that we had probably the greatest CD in town, who also tried his best! Hell, I remember home-recording radio ads to get clients to invest in radio instead of just using the TV soundtracks!!!!! IN 2008!!!!!! AAAAAHHHH!!!! I mean, you can just BUY the technology, you can PAY people to do the scripting or flash or ruby for you. ALL YOU NEED IS A GOOD IDEA. Isn't this the most liberating thought? I'll tell you another thing. I've always admired Mullen's work, and sure, you do great work, but so do a lot of other agencies. I returned to America around the time the "See turtles" campaign and the Legal Seafoods fresh fish campaigns were first out. I loved 'em both equally. But I took the time to websearch both agencies and the reason why I love Mullen so much more now is because of your blog. The agency that did Legal Seafoods? I don't even remember their name. Me I'm just some broke student, but what about others? Who might have a shoestore brand with a 7 million dollar budget?

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edward boches moderator
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Thanks for the props re Mullen. We are aggressively embracing all that's new, both for our own benefit and that of our clients. As for your class and the Twitter assignment, it may be a naive approach, but the fact is most faculty at any communication school have been out of the business for a while, making it even harder to stay up with what's going on. I hope that the school's are teaching this stuff in a relevant way: from strategy, to consumer trends, to understanding the technology, to creative applications and especially to how to engage the consumer as a co-creator and participant. If not it's a lost opportunity to prepare students in how to think and execute in this new post web 2.0 era.

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TimS moderator
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Not surprised by the graph - there is a fair amount of scepticism around social media in the tradtional advertising camps, and the technology is advancing at a rate which is diffictult to keep up with.

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edward boches moderator
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That is true. Advertising has historically been late to lots of parties, from digital to iphone apps to social media. Then when they catch on it's as if they discovered it. Seems to me that there are plenty of forward thinking agencies that are getting it, and plenty of new models that may, over time, replace the older, more tired models. Won't happen over night, but the change is accelerating faster than it ever has, at least in the time I've been in the business.

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Mark Harmel moderator
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It reminds me of my wife's diabetes patients. Some can treat their disease with a lifestyle change, but most need to take pills or shots. (The lifestyle part is still useful.) Social media is a lifestyle change. You have to care about and connect with your customers, instead of taking a pill by hiring someone to make an ad. .-= Mark Harmel´s last blog ..how twitter led me to Lemonade =-.

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edward boches moderator
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Mark: Like that metaphor. I've got to believe it's only a matter of time, but it does seem odd it's taking some so long. Taking a pill is too easy, and may not work as well anymore.

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Deborah Lewis moderator
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I'm amazed over 30% think it's an opportunity. Almost every business I know thinks it's plain scary or too much to learn. I think partly it's generational too

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edward boches moderator
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If you spend a lot of time in the social spaces and pay attention to the many brands that are here it's easy to forget that this is still new. Yet with all the growth, buzz, success stories and opportunity it just seems crazy for a brand or marketer to delay taking the jump. They'll have to eventually. It's where their consumers and audience are living.

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Brian Bresee moderator
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I think a huge obstacle for the older generation is that the many of the guides are on social media sites themselves. The only way to really understand social media is by jumping in, and that can be a scary prospect. There's a great presentation posted on our site from Heather Lytle at HVM Solutions on how social media changes your marketing planning: http://my.brainshark.com/Social-Media-The-Old-Marketing-Game-Has-New-Rules-829551437

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