Comments on: Are creative marketing types a dying breed?

By: Jeff Shatuck

Jeff Shatuck — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:19:19 +0000

Steve, reading your colleague's stuff now, thank you! Jeff .-= Jeff Shatuck´s last blog ..Should ideas be ownable? =-.

By: Steve Gogolak

Steve Gogolak — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:44:24 +0000

Jeff, good point. Seems like “selling stuff” is the old adage, however. The new marketing thought process is to get people talking about stuff that they *should* buy because it is so great. Less about selling and more about convincing that the product is right for the buyer and getting them to buy. Selling sounds deceptive, like trying to push something on anybody who has a buck to spare regardless of their need. Social Media Marketing through remarkable content is about exposing the right product to the right buyer at the right time. No pitch, no gimmick, just something the buyer needs.

Regarding your link between sales, marketing and product dev… a collegue of mine wrote a great piece on that very subject. Check out the download here: http://crameronline.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Building_a_Bridge.pdf

By: Jeff Shattuck

Jeff Shattuck — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:10:49 +0000

Great post, great comments, but I am floored that no one is talking about what all this marketing creativity is attempting to do: sell stuff, if not right away then over the long term. As such, to my mind, marketing, sales and product development need to be in constant contact. Further, marketing types should be able to talk intelligently with those who are developing the service or product or blog or whatever and be persuasive in asking for changes. It blows my mind that few large companies do a great job of integrating marketing, sales and product development. Just stunningly stupid!

Jeff
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By: david knies

david knies — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:00:41 +0000

great thoughtstarters, brian.

creativity will always be part of great branding.

but my belief is that the traditional ad agency-centric model is completely obsolete, and that the future is about brand design, where a brand’s mission, fundamentals and story are creatively articulated and communicated through multiplatform conversations.

advertising can be part of that, but not the center. it extends the conversation.

after all, what was the last thing you learned about first through advertising????

creatives have an critical place in designing the brand and its conversations, on whatever platforms they take place. and creativity will always drive the great brands, so it will never go away. but where the creatives work will change.

dk@launchcontrolgroup.com

By: edward boches

edward boches — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:48:28 +0000

Passive, pale and bland does seem to characterize most work these days. And while I don’t love the word “infiltrate” (prefer inspire) the point that we have to earn involvement is true.

By: Paul L'Acosta

Paul L'Acosta — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:55:37 +0000

Creativity will always be king. It’s what sets your content apart from the rest and makes you an interesting string on this big tangle of triple w’s we call web. I think creating noticeable content doesn’t suffer when it’s properly manipulated to be found. After all, filling both shoes should be considered an amazing accomplishment and kudos to the being able to master both. Great link by Simon too! –Paul
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By: Steve Gogolak

Steve Gogolak — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:32:00 +0000

Remarkable content gets people talking. That’s it. Thousands of ads play each day on TV, but there are only a few that you mention at the water cooler. You see hundreds of banner ads in a single sitting, but there are only a handful that a clever enough to get you to mention it to a friend the next day. Creatives manage to figure out what will catch people off guard – interrupt the expected pattern. Like when a hero dies and a villain prevails. You may not “like” it, but who cares if you talk about it with your friends.

By: Patrick

Patrick — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:20:56 +0000

Excellent blog post. It mirrors much of what you said in your book “Inbound Marketing”.

I think there are three main types of creatives in the field.

1) copywriters and ad-designers. There will always be a plethora of ad guys out there. While DVR is slowly penetrating more households, let’s just talk about the Super Bowl. The best ad guys work on these ads because it is the one time a year people watch ads for an extended period of time much like your Irish soap analogy. I still remember how funny the teleflora ad was even though it got poor marks by ad critics.

2) Social Media Mavens. These guys are the most underated marketers in the business. They are not trying to create a single multi thousand dollar ad, but instead create content on a daily basis to engage customers. While I agree this is the future of marketing, companies must have a blend of 1 and 2.

3) The blend thinkers. I will just reference Doritos for this one. The contest for having customers create ads for the Super Bowl was genius. They obtain copious amount of user generated content. Participants are constantly thinking what ad to come up with for the following year (I fall into that category) which may potentially lead to more sales. They then get the added reach of their ad being shown during the Super Bowl.

Anyways, keep up the good posts!!

By: brian halligan

brian halligan — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:07:49 +0000

Simon — Thanks for forwarding along the article…I tend to agree with the author. Bh.

By: Simon Bloomfield

Simon Bloomfield — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:00:54 +0000

I think you might be interested in reading this post by Cynic’s Rob Campbell, as well. http://tinyurl.com/yzzff6b